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Some FCPX Road Blocks and More

We’ve all been following the Final Cut Pro X saga since its release back in June. And we’ve all read about those many big things that FCPX seems to be missing … like XML in and out, third-party hardware support and the inability to import old FCP7 projects. But one thing that I’ve found after using FCPX for around two months now is there are a lot of little things that I’ve come to enjoy as an FCP7 user that didn’t make their way into FCPX. Oliver Peters recently posted a list of just such things (over at his excellent editing and post-production blog) called FCPX road blocks. That list has a lot of little things that have been on my list, including no copy-and-paste of attributes, no audio mixer and no timecode overlays, just to name a few. I think his list will hit home for many seasoned editors who have taken the FCPX plunge. I’ll add a few more to his list of FCPX road blocks. Only nine keyword shortcut slots. One of FCPX’s strongest new features is keywording to organize and manage media. There are also keyword shortcuts where you can assign a keyword to a clip or clip range with a keystroke. You can see this in the Keyword Editor: Unfortunately, there are only nine slots to fill since the keyword manager doesn’t refresh with each new project opened. This decision was probably made since media is no longer associated with individual projects, but since most work will still be done like it always has been, via project (or timeline in FCPX), it would be nice to have more than nine assignable keyword shortcuts. No way to skim clips in the iTunes browser. It’s probably debatable if a “professional” application really needs built-in iTunes and iPhoto browsers but there they are. I could find myself using the iTunes browser on occasion, because depending on the project I’ll use iTunes to organize audio files. What’s frustrating about its FCPX implementation is there’s no way to scrub and skim the tracks you’re auditioning through the iTunes browser. This is really needed when searching out sound effects and stock music as you often don’t know how the track goes. Who wants to listen to the whole clip just to get an idea of what the end is like? And it’s a waste of time to have to import the clip just to preview it. FCPX is built around skimming, so if you’re going to build an iTunes browser right into the FCPX interface at least make it more usable. Clips don’t retain IN/OUT, START/END markers. If you’ve marked the IN and OUT point of a source clip and you then click away from that clip, when you return your marks will be gone. This is most certainly a bug as there’s no real reason I can think of that a clip wouldn’t retain the marks. The generally stated “workaround” is to save those selected marks as a clip in a collection, say as a Favorite. That’s fine once or twice but to have to do this repeatedly EVERY TIME you make an IN to OUT selection, just to be sure FCPX doesn’t lose it, is a real waste of time. Plus you’ve then got the extra step of always labeling that new favorite each time you save one, plus you’ll have to sort through them all as the project grows. FCPX should retain source IN to OUT marks until you clear them yourself. Video scopes don’t remember the last selection. Speaking of a waste of time, video scopes default to an RGB Overlay histogram. I almost always start out with an RGB Parade waveform. I always have to take time to choose this setting in the very nice FCPX video scopes after opening the scopes window. Plus it’s two steps, as you have to choose both the display and channels. But I often close the window to get more screen real estate back since FCPX doesn’t allow for custom window layouts. What happens when I hit command + 7 to open the scopes again? They’ve reverted back to RGB Overlay histogram. But then again, the last time I quit FCPX with the RGB Parade open I booted it up later and the Luma Waveform was up by default, so who knows what the video scopes behavior really is? At least in FCP7 it seems to default to the four-up scope view. And it really would be nice to be able to see more than one scope at a time, like in FCP7. Overwriting seems to be discouraged. Performing an overwrite edit seems to be discouraged. It’s not listed in the interface as a button, though overwrite does have a default keyboard command (d) and is under the Edit menu. But making an overwrite isn’t the easiest thing. For anything other than the Primary Storyline (such as a Secondary Storyline) you have to make a deliberate Range selection to mark an IN to OUT to overwrite to. That’s not so bad, I guess — but what you can’t do is overwrite a connected clip. I’ve found that often I don’t want an entire connected clip as I refine an edit. In fact, I want to replace part of a connected clip, but you can’t just overwrite part of a connected clip and make a new one. It’s a multi-step process to make a new connected clip and then trim out or delete what you don’t want of the old connected clip. That could be accomplished in fewer steps if you could just overwrite parts of a connected clip. In fact you can select an IN to OUT range on a connected clip but performing an overwrite will place the new clip in the Primary Storyline but use the connected clip’s IN to OUT as its range. Skimmer/playhead doesn’t return to the undo point. This might just be me, but when I perform on UNDO I like it for the playhead to adjust back to that edit point that is being undone. More than likely I’m wanting to work on the edit that I just “un-did.” In both Final Cut Pro 7 and Avid Media Composer the playhead usually jumps back to the point of undo (depending on what you were undoing) which makes it very easy to get back to work on that edit point. It seems like I’m searching out the “un-done” edit point in FCPX all the time where I don’t in Media Composer and FCP7. No live timeline scrolling. As modern as FCPX seems, what with its ability to continue playback while actually working in the timeline, you would think FCPX would be able to do what Media Composer and Adobe Premiere Pro can do: either scroll the timeline behind the playhead or jump down the timeline page by page during playback so as not to lose the playhead. I would have thought for sure that feature would have made it in to FCPX. I’m also quite surprised that when you stop playback the timeline doesn’t adjust to the playhead. Without a mini-timeline under the Viewer, it’s often hard to judge just where in the timeline the playhead is. And don’t forget to read Oliver Peter’s FCPX roadblocks if you haven’t already. These were just a few of the little things I’m missing in FCPX. What are some of yours?  

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  • Philip I

    I heard this is another Jobs Money making trick, after people abandon FCP Apple will come out with a New Improved Pro Version that won’t be an upgrade but will cost more, Jobs knows the Mac Lemmings won’t go away easy, He can take that to the Bank! literally

  • Fred

    I’m not missing anything in FCPX.

    I went back to Avid.

    The only thing I’m missing is sympathy for those who are obviously trying to use consumer software for professional work.

  • Craig Seeman

    Actually I find marking in/out f (favorite) a more flexible way to remember in/out points although it is one extra keystroke.

    You do not have to root through the favorite collection. Clips can be in multiple collections including the Event itself.

    Find the clip in the event and click on the top color line and the in/out returns. There’s no reason to look through the favorite collection or bother to name them.

    You can have multiple in/outs (favorites) per clip. Go through a clip and mark in/out f for several possible bites and you have all of them marked with in/out immediately recallable.

    For one extra keystroke “f” you can an amazing amount of extra flexibility. Of course forget to hit that f key and poof gone when you click on another clip. But hitting that f key is now as automatic as command s use to be for constantly saving.

  • http://www.aksalaproducrtions.com Greg Kuhn

    Thanks for the list. I have an OKCFCPUG meeting coming up in a week and this will give me something to go over for all of us who are teetering on the edge between FCP X and the Adobe Premiere plunge!

  • Joe Estes

    s a satisfied FCP 7 user, it is disappointing to realize that in FC X, Apple is so lacking in its ability to provide a usable, compatible editing platform for the professional user, that it is forcing us to look elsewhere. It appears that “X” stands for unknown or X-cessively in need of workarounds. Even on its website, Apple suggested that third-party companies were developing applications to allow FC X to work with professional products. (Please note that the “P” is left out intentionally). With all the hype going around, FC X reminds me of the Hans Christian Anderson story – “The Emperor’s New Clothes” – not much there.

  • Craig Seeman

    The road blocks will come down over time. Apple’s goal is to sell hardware and the tool will have to be very persuasive to move the more expensive high octane CPU/GPU computers.

    Yes, Apple likes making money and it is probably the most convincing reason that FCPX will eventually move into the space where the deepest wallets preside.

  • Editor

    Your little things are WAY more valid arguments than Oliver Peter’s. His criticisms seem to have more to do with his age and not wanting to accept a new system – there was a lot of “but it’s not like Avid” whining. Well, duh. Go work on Avid if you want Avid. FCPX is a new system. It is not an upgrade from FCP7. Apple itself has stated that it’s a ground-up reworking, so you need to approach it that way. Yes, it’s not perfect, and I read Peter’s list first before yours, coming to yours all hating on FCPX haters. But you’ve actually found great features that should have carried over. Are they vital, probably not, but a lot of the things missing that you point out slow editors down. And THAT is what I’m more interested in. How is FCPX going to make me a more efficient editor? I get it – processing mumbo jumbo and compatibility stuff, yes that will all come in future updates, I’m sure of it. But these small features are the actual editing tools. We want an editor. Not a bunch of pre-built crap and for Apple to decide what we do and don’t need. I’m still on the fence about FCPX, but I’m not going to write it off. There are a TON of improvements already, and we should look at it as FCPX 1.0. It can only go up from here.

  • Stephen

    It is absolutely no surprise that Apple dumped software on the market that has huge holes in it. This not unlike the ipad/iphone that has no flash capability and uses apps only Apple has approved. No to mention other limitations. If the public would have reject a device that accesses only part of the web maybe Apple would have learned their lesson. But Apple has got the public believing that it can do no wrong. If you have problems with FCPX that is your problem–you take it and like it. How about boycotting FCPX and maybe their get the message? There are other NLE software out there. Even Microsoft learned they can’t dump garbage software on the market and expect people to buy it. Stop apologizing for Apple!

  • Richard

    Fanboys are funny.

  • http://www.endeavourfilmstudios.com CLundgren

    It seemed simple at the outset. When reworking or building a professional edit suite software, why wouldn’t FCPX automatically offer/provide all the features that pros need?
    The features of FCP7 plus new goodies to wow everyone? As a FCP user, it is very disapointing that this road was taken? I can imagine that it was by accident. CL

  • http://studio19productions.com Kev Hamm

    “That list has a lot of little things that have been on my list, including no copy-and-paste of attributes…” I wondered where this was too, as Paste Attributes was my favorite function many an edit (ok, probably too many).

    It’s still there, but it’s now called “Paste Effects” and works the same way as before. Select a clip in your timeline, command-c or edit-> copy and then select another clip and then choose edit->Paste Effects. All transforms, timing, filters, coloring, everything is, and technically always was, an effect, so this renaming makes sense, but they still should have called it out better.

    • http://www.scottsimmons.tv Scott Simmons

      @kev – I disagree it works the same as before. It’s much more limited as it is a paste all or nothing. You don’t have the options for the different types of things that you are pasting! It’s a very different and much more limited option than Paste Attributes in FCP7.

  • bob

    Apple is stupefying the masses. They limit choice. Its odd also that Apple went after Adobe on the same day Adobe released CS5. In CS5 Flash anyone could develop an App to work on Iphones and Ipads. Apple not only blocked that freedom of development but also blocked Flash from working well on their devices including the new LionOS platform. Truly Apple should have been kissing Adobe’s ass because without “photoshop” dominating the marketplace for decades apple hardware for artists would have gone the way of the do-do. Adobe supported Apple..so now years later Adobe gets slapped in the face with no recognition of its support towards Apple Apple then drops Shake and screws around with editors livelihood after ten years of support..see a pattern here? One cannot even get the constant annoying upgrades to itunes to work with first generation itouch devices (unless you call apple and let them screw you for $65 “we might be able to fix it” fee)

    For those Apple followers, Apple is like the abusive parent and you are the abused who keeps making excuses for their lackluster support and you go back again and again..as they say in abuse cases the first time you get hit you’re the victim. Stick around to get smacked again and you’re a volunteer…my suggestion look at Adobe and Avid and see their track record of support and or decide to try freeware/shareware options and find a community that supports your choice.

  • james wooster

    Hey haters, FCPX is super cool. I just act like I never worked on FCP7, like I just came from mars, and I never had any expectations. It’s super fast. I can edit way faster now. And the plug ins are coming. When the next update happens, it’s gonna be cool. Avid is a dinosaur that almost died a few yrs ago. And if I have to jump back to FCP7, so what. I mastered that a long time ago. In fact, I have jumped edit jobs between the 2 just fine. I really love the magnetic timeline, the real time rendering, the built in effects, the integration between motion and X, Compressor kicks butt, and the mask feature is un believable. The send to youtube or face book is so killer. I have to put almost every edit i do to youtube for viewing by the client, so it cuts out a super time consuming headache. I don’t care about the lost features that much, as i know they will be put back in or were obsolete. Sooner or later the platform had to be updated. But humans don’t like change and it’s never the right time. I say it is the right time. 64 bit is killer. I get a hard on every time I see ALL the cores (I have 16 virtual cores) being used at the same time. I can seriously tell that it is going waaaaay faster. Every one forgets that the reason Apple is King is that it makes you work faster by being easier. Well It’s easier. That does not make it less pro. Pro means fast, clean and $$$$ at the end of the day. It’s like when P.C nerds used to think they were so smart that they could operate DOS.
    Don’t miss the point.
    Thanks Apple.

  • Les Fitzpatrick

    Love my Avid tattoo.

  • http://swainhart.org Chris Swainhart

    Your list is one of the more valid lists regarding FCPX omissions. Instead of just carping on what FCPX isn’t it is more instructive to examine what it is and how it can be improved. The lack of the ability to mark in and outs on clips that stick is a biggie. If Apple thought it wasn’t necessary why not just give us a choice and let us click that ability on and of in a preference setting?

    There are some things FCPX does much better. In my opinion FCP7 was getting long in the tooth and needed replaced. It was really awful in many respects. However, it remains to be seen where Apple is going with FCPX.

  • Bryan

    For those who insist FCPX is better, perhaps they can they share links showing their superior video projects made using FCPX. I’d like to see why a skilled editor would set aside FCP7 for FCPX when money and deadlines are on the line.

  • greg gilpatrick

    Hey,

    Thanks for the constructively critical list. I do have one clarification that I wish you made. You make it sound like once you fill up the 9 keyword shortcut slots that you can’t change them. However, you can fill those slots with whatever you want and delete and re-configure them. You also can have multiple keywords assigned to a single shortcut (e.g. “b-roll” and “MOS” can be assigned at once as two separate keywords) I agree with you that it would be nice to have more than 9 but I’m pretty happy with the current implementation of that feature.

    • http://www.scottsimmons.tv Scott Simmons

      @greg – good clarifications on the keywording. My point was that I would more like to see keywords based on a project level. I would be using different sets of keywords for different types of projects. Of course this is a bit tricky with the way FCPX handles media in the ever present Events and new Project/Timeline paradigm. That’s another place where IMHO I don’t think the FCPX designers really thought the app through in real world, heavy use environments.

  • http://bozoworld.wordpress.com/ Martin

    I heard a lot of opinions from the pro editors community, to the 13-year-old grownups who publish to YouTube like crazy, and there is a whole range of opinions about this release.

    just for the record, im not a professional editor, and its been like a hobby to me for years now. im using the Fina Cut Pro 7 for a couple of years, it is an amazing piece of software, and I love it.

    so as the software came out, I decided to take the geek approach and learn to use the software from the ground up until ill decide whether I love it or hate it.

    and while doing so, let me tell you I was amazed by the power of this release, the richness of its features and the learning curve that was amazingly fast, plus the integration with Motion 5, and its new features by itself took me to heaven, its like you can build all of your effects, transitions, and generators like a professional 3rd party plugin software company all by your self, wow!
    just to get it streight, there is a missing features as all the pro editor mentioned, (yea, the multicam missing feature is a bummer…and the lack of importing xml or FCP7 projects as well…) but i belive they rashly overkill reviews before they leaned and experienced the whole package.

  • http://www.splicevine.com Eric Wise

    ‘Only nine keyword shortcut slots’.

    That’s a biggie. It would be nice if there was some kind of keyword clipboard or something. I wonder if this limiting feature was left out unintentionally or because it goes against the FCP X ‘philosophy’? I’m assuming someone is going to make an uber-metadata-3rd-party-plugin that will correct this.