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“Fix It in Post” is an old adage used on production (usually one meant to be reassuring when used by producers, a mocking inside joke when the crew says it). In most cases, it's better, and cheaper, to get it right on set than to try to do it in post. But on The Road to Empire, like many independent films, there was really no other option. The production funds were scant which meant compromises in locations, shooting and audio. Often the locations like inside a hospital, restaurant and airport could not be locked down so the production had to shoot while business at those locations continued, often with only a few hours to shoot an entire scene. DP Tobias Datum had little time to light, and only two assistants, and the production sound team was at the mercy of the outside world. But despite all this all, the editor, colorist, VFX and sound artists were able to fix it in post and without skyrocketing costs. In fact the entire film cost $60,000 with only a small part of that used for production.

But the challenges were just beginning after the Super 16mm film was in the can and the compromises made during production had to be faced head on, and still with very little money. This meant spending a lot of time in the DI and doing over 2,000 lines of ADR on location. Yes, ADR on location. But more on that later.


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Comments (10) for "Creative Post Workflow The Road to Empire"
1.
As much fun as this film would have been to work on, in our own case we just don't donate time anymore - to finish the sound on a film like this. Most directors, when they get along in their careers, don't have choices of post houses. Take for instance, the recent nationally-released film War, directed by my long time friend Philip Atwell. Lions Gate kept the work 'in-house' and therefore didn't sound the best. It sounded OK. We have great ongoing releationships with numerous big directors now - they companies like Lions Gate that try to keep the costs down by not outsourcing the work.
I think we've turned down 30 projects this year that were either 'delayed compensation' or 'volunteer/donation'.
Instead, we charge a fair price - lower than our regular clients - but they will still get AMAZING sound for their project. And we'll be more into giving them that AMAZING sound as well. Sure, we cut corners in places that you wouldn't notice during playback of an independent film in a gymnasium at Sundance. But we tell the clients that up front, and then we'll be glad to make it even more amazing when the film has been purchased for distribution. By then, the Producer and Director team can breathe, and so can we.
Posted by Derek Sample on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 @ 10:48 PM
2.
nice article, it takes me back.
Posted by Richard Manigault on Thursday, October 18, 2007 @ 06:07 AM
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Regarding sound comments, I just wanted to mention, since it's not in the article, that final sound mix was done by Gary Bourgeois and Deb Adair at Sony Pictures' Holden Stage, at the courtesy of Richard Branca.
Posted by Tyler Hawes on Thursday, October 18, 2007 @ 02:57 PM
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" ...willing to defer monetary compensation"
defered = unpaid
Posted by 1st ac on Sunday, October 21, 2007 @ 10:33 PM
5.
Interesting article and workflow. Anywhere we can watch a trailer or see some sample footage?
Posted by M. Hough on Monday, October 22, 2007 @ 02:32 PM
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Trailer is in the works now. Sample footage will be posted in first week of November. Email tyler@liquidcompanies.com and I will notify you when it's up...
Posted by Tyler Hawes on Monday, October 22, 2007 @ 04:14 PM
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The official website for the movie is www.theroadtoempire.com. A trailer will be posted there as soon as it is completed.
Posted by Glenn Cote on Monday, October 22, 2007 @ 04:33 PM
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Any director who shoots an entire feature without seeing dailies has got cojones, man. Hats off. Robert Rodriguez did it on El Mariachi and before him Spielberg did it on DUEL.
Posted by Martina Rodriguez on Thursday, October 25, 2007 @ 04:26 PM
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Inspired solutions. A while back, I produced a low budget super 16mm film blown up to 35mm and faced countless post headaches: late "dailies," betaSP transfers with timecode dropouts, tedious 30fps to 24fps conform from Avid, resulting expensive negative cut conform, bad color timing, super $$$ interpositive... the list goes on. The new (and inexpensive) world of HD has side-stepped all these headaches. The one thing we insisted on was getting perfect sound on location. We ended up only ADRing 6 lines. What a difference 10 years of technology makes. Thanks for the inspiring story- Producer "Disoriented"
Posted by douglas bachman on Thursday, November 8, 2007 @ 12:06 PM
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Just to be clear, we shot Super 16mm, not HD. Some would say HD side steps those problems but gets a whole new set of problems.
Posted by Tyler Hawes on Friday, November 16, 2007 @ 03:41 PM

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